If you read the papers, watch television or get your news from the Internet, you have probably seen or heard something regarding the recently announced 'discovery' of a papyrus fragment claiming that Jesus (yes, Jesus of Nazareth) was married. For all the fuss, you'd think that this was the first time anyone had ever suggested that Jesus might have had a wife but clearly it isn't (I'm still sure he didn't). So what does this mean? Is it interesting? Certainly. Does it cast doubt on Christianity and the Bible? Uh, no. Currently, most scholars who study ancient Coptic (that is, Christian Egyptian) writing believe that this is a total fake, but even if it turns out to be real, there isn't much chance that it changes much of anything at all.
For a quick run-down of some excellent blogs, you can look at The Biblical World, written by Dr. John Byron at Ashland Seminary. Dr. Byron presents reminds us to use caution in jumping to conclusions before the scholarly community has even had a chance to look at the fragment and respond. He then provides a healthy collection of links to other blogs where you can learn more, if you are so inclined.
You might also go to Dr. Ben Witherington's (Asbury Seminary) blog where he quotes from an analysis by Simon Cathercole, an expert on such documents. If you are really interested, the link to Cathercole's blog and the complete text of his comments is among Dr. Byron's links.
Ben Witherington quotes Simon Gathercole
If you aren't really much into reading you can see and hear Dr. Witherington's comments here.
Long story short, as much as the media seems to be in a feeding frenzy over 'Jesus' Wife', it really isn't likely to a big deal at all.
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Friday, September 21, 2012
Monday, May 14, 2012
Why is Homosexuality an argument instead of a discussion?
This week one of my Seminary professors, Dr. John Byron, wonders in his blog why the church isn't having a conversation about homosexuality. Too often we hear pastors and other members of the church saying that they are "for" or "against", "pro" or "con,' but how often are we actually talking about the problem and searching for what is right? Surely the Bible has something to say and can inform us as we wrestle with a difficult problem, or have we given up on the authority of scripture? I find it especially odd that Methodists, who claim to be the people of 'Holy Conferencing', are so quick to draw lines in the sand before having a real, genuine, and honest conversation in pursuit of the truth.
Dr. Byron's Blog:
Dr. Byron's Blog:Homosexuality: When will the church really have a conversation?
Tuesday, July 19, 2011
Better Late Than Never - My take on Rob Bell’s “Love Wins” (Part 2)
As I said, Rob Bell asks some great questions and they are
important, life or death questions but his approach to answering some of them
is sloppy. I found that disappointing in
someone who writes so well. When I say
that Rob Bell’s approach is sloppy, here is what I mean: In seminary we were taught that we should always
allow the text of scripture to speak for itself. We were taught how to properly interpret
scripture, how to translate difficult words and to look at how that writer, or
other Biblical writers used those words in similar contexts so that we could
correctly discern the intended meaning.
Beyond this, we were taught never to proof-text. Proof-texting happens when we decide what the
Bible should say and then proceed to dig out Biblical texts that align with, and
therefore seem to prove, our initial theories.
Rob Bell may not be proof-texting in “Love Wins” but he seems to draw awfully
close to that line. Bell begins his book
with an entire chapter devoted to describing what he wants to find in the Bible
and uses whatever texts that seem to agree with him and either ignoring or
skipping over texts that present significant problems. Ben Witherington even finds occasions where
Bell has grossly misinterpreted scriptures so that they agree with his arguments
where the correct interpretations would stand in opposition to it.
Bell says that heaven and hell are real and that they exist
here on earth. It’s a nice sentiment,
but that’s not what Jesus said. Jesus
said that heaven is in another place.
Jesus said that hell is real. Rob
Bell says that we can decide, after death, to accept Christ but Jesus says that
a great chasm exists between heaven and hell and no one can bridge that gap. Bell thinks that if we can decide to choose
Christ after our deaths then sooner or later nearly everyone will come to their
senses, follow Jesus and enter into heaven.
Jesus says that at the end of the age the weeds will be separated from
the wheat and thrown into the fire.
Jesus says that the weeds are the followers of the evil one and the
wheat are the followers of God. I agree
with Bell that some of the things in scripture are troublesome. Like Bell, I wish that billions of
unbelievers would not be sentenced to punishment in hell, but I can’t just
pretend that scripture doesn’t say what it says. We struggle with the texts of scripture. It isn’t easy and we do no one any favors
when we take shortcuts.
If we have a high view of scripture, we believe that it says
what it says. If we have this view, then
we must define ourselves and our beliefs why what we discern from it. We cannot force what we wish to be true upon scripture.
In summary, “Love Wins” is very well-written and engaging
but for all the good ideas and excellent questions contained in it, there is
too much theology that is poorly thought out, too much off-target
interpretation and too many places where the layman (because it is well written
and engaging) is going to have difficulty
discerning one from the other. For those
reasons, I cannot recommend reading “love Wins” unless you have a copy of a reliable analysis (like Ben
Witherington’s) alongside it to help you avoid the pitfalls along the
way.
Better Late Than Never - My take on Rob Bell’s “Love Wins” (Part 1)
Amid the hubbub earlier this year over Rob Bell’s “Love Wins”
I had several friends who either read or commented on it (or both). I have not been a follower of Rob Bell (although
I have seen one or two of his Nooma videos) and so, despite the fuss, I wasn’t
terribly tempted to read it for myself… until Pam, a Facebook friend,
challenged me to read it for myself. Up
until then, I had limited myself to sharing links to some really well-researched
and well-written blogs about it by folks like Ben Witherington
and Dr. John Byron
(who was my Greek professor in Seminary).
I promised Pam that I would read the book but I still didn’t want to buy
it so I put my name on a list at the local library and waited. As luck (or the providence of God) would have
it, the book came in just as we were preparing to leave for our church’s Youth
Annual conference. I attend this
conference with our youth, but the youth, and the youth leaders attend the
business meetings and I only attend the concerts and listen to the
speakers. As a result, I was able to squeeze
in enough time to read through the book.
I was going to re-read the book and take notes but if I had,
I would be writing a six part post (instead of two) and I would have been late returning the
book to the library. Besides, other
writers have more ably and more thoroughly dissected it already.
Frankly, the book made me sad.
It made me sad because I really enjoyed reading it. Rob Bell writes the way I talk. He isn’t hung up in sentence structure or
having perfect paragraphs but writes in a style that reflects how we speak with
one another. I find that style,
occasionally, to be refreshing. What’s
more Rob Bell writes well, has many really great ideas and asks some very
important questions. Problems arise,
however because of how Rob Bell proceeds after he has a good idea and after he
asks a great question.
Rob Bell seems to want to have things both ways. He says that what Jesus did was done for us,
with no exceptions, no confessions, and no believing required (p. 11), and yet
he believes that this sort of Christianity should motivate us to do good. Why?
If I believed that nothing is required of me in order to go to heaven,
if I believed that I am not responsible for carrying the Good News to others
(because nothing is required of THEM either), then what motivation do I have to
do good or to tell others about the truth that I’ve found?
(continued in Part 2)
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